Twin Eredar, TTR Arena Battle, Warlocks in WotLK [Archive]

Poag

03-07-2008, 09:28 AM

Twin Eredars loot table final update
The Twin Eredars have been killed a decent amount of time now, and we can assume that we heard about all the items dropping from them by now, the latest additions are the 3 Shoulders drop (That's 6 new items because they're all exchangeable). They're not new items, just an addition to the loot table to make it complete. Reminder : Items tagged with a (*) in the list are available from the vendor on the Sunwell Isle if you can provide the loot above it on the list along with a Sunmote.

Twin Eredars loot table (Latest additions at the bottom right)
<table><tr><td<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/goldenbowofquelthalas.jpg" rel="item=34196">Golden Bow of Quel'thalas</a> (Bow) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/shivofexsanguination.jpg" rel="item=34197">Shiv of Exsanguination</a> (Dagger - One-Hand) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/gripofmannoroth.jpg" rel="item=34203">Grip of Mannoroth</a> (Off-Hand Fist Weapon) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/stanchionofprimalinstinct.jpg" rel="item=34198">Stanchion of Primal Instinct</a> (Staff) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/archonsgavel.jpg" rel="item=34199">Archon's Gavel</a> (Mace - Healer) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/mantleofthegoldenforest.jpg" rel="item=34194">Mantle of the Golden Forest</a> (Mail) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/amiceoftheconvoker.jpg" rel="item=34210">Amice of the Convoker</a> (Cloth) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/shroudofredeemedsouls.jpg" rel="item=34205">Shroud of Redeemed Souls</a> (Cloak) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/crimsonparagonscover.jpg" rel="item=34190">Crimson Paragon's Cover</a> (Cloak) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/sindoreipendantofconquest.jpg" rel="item=35290">Sin'dorei Pendant of Conquest</a> (Neck) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/sindoreipendantofsalvation.jpg" rel="item=35291">Sin'dorei Pendant of Salvation</a> (Neck) </td><td>
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/sindoreipendantoftriumph.jpg" rel="item=35292">Sin'dorei Pendant of Triumph</a> (Neck) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/bandofruinousdelight.jpg" rel="item=34189">Band of Ruinous Delight</a> (Ring) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/essence_large.jpg" rel="item=34544">Essence of the Immortals</a> (Quest item) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/bookofhighbornehymns.jpg">Book of Highborne Hymns</a> (Off-Hand - Caster) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/amuletofunfetteredmagics.jpg">Amulet of Unfettered Magics</a> (Neck) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/shoulderpadsofvehemence.jpg">Shoulderpads of Vehemence</a> (Leather) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/demontoothshoulderpads.jpg">Demontooth Shoulderpads (*)</a> (Leather) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/equilibriumepaulets.jpg">Equilibrium Epaulets</a> (Mail) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/eruptingspaulders.jpg">Erupting Spaulders (*)</a> (Mail) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/pauldronsofperseverance.jpg">Pauldrons of Perseverance</a> (Plate) 
<a target="_blank" href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/pauldronsofberserking.jpg">Pauldrons of Berserking (*)</a> (Plate) </td></tr></table>

Worldwide Arena Battle on TTR
A Worldwide Arena Battle will be held on Tournament Test Realm on Sunday between 12PM and 3PM PST.

Source (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103674946&postId=51031975319&sid=1#0) Are you ready to take on the world in the arenas? The World of Warcraft team will be testing the WoW Arena Tournament on the Tournament Test Realm, and you are invited to be a part of the action. Players in all regions will access the same realm, so the call is going out to all PvPers in North America, Europe, and Korea to log into the Arena Tournament Test Realm and participate in all-out PvP action!

The Worldwide Arena Battle will take place this Sunday between 12PM to 3PM PST, and members of the Community and Development teams will join in the fray, including a head to head match between community managers from around the world for world dominance. The results will also be posted on the Tournament forum!

No character copies will be needed for this unique event as you will get access to the character and gear of your choice just by logging in. The 2.4 PTR patch will provide access to the Tournament realm so download it soon and weâ€™ll see you on the battlefield!

If you didn't install your PTR client yet, you can download it through the Blizzard download (from the Test Realm page on the official site) or just use the following temporary mirrors.

PTR Client mirrors
This is the original file to install the PTR client, then run the WoW.exe in your WoWTest folder to get all the PTR updates (there are a few of them, probably 6 or 7, and you'll have to install them one by one)
http://www.vienas.net/imgcache/199.png WoW-2.3.3.7799-to-0.4.0.7897-enUS-patch.exe [Download (http://azeroth.mmo-champion.com/download/WoW-2.3.3.7799-to-0.4.0.7897-enUS-patch.exe)]
http://www.vienas.net/imgcache/200.png WoW-2.3.3.7799-to-0.4.0.7897-enGB-patch.exe [Download (http://azeroth.mmo-champion.com/download/WoW-2.3.3.7799-to-0.4.0.7897-enGB-patch.exe)]
http://www.vienas.net/imgcache/201.png WoW-0.4.0.7897-to-0.4.0.7923-deDE-patch.exe [Download (http://azeroth.mmo-champion.com/download/WoW-2.3.3.7799-to-0.4.0.7897-deDE-patch.exe)]
http://www.vienas.net/imgcache/202.png WoW-0.4.0.7897-to-0.4.0.7923-frFR-patch.exe [Download (http://azeroth.mmo-champion.com/download/WoW-2.3.3.7799-to-0.4.0.7897-frFR-patch.exe)]
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Latest PTR update mirrors
The latest update was fairly big, I mirrored the enGB and enUS for people who really need them but I don't plan to do it for all the languages, sorry.
http://www.vienas.net/imgcache/199.png WoW-0.4.0.7994-to-0.4.0.8016-enUS-patch.exe [Download (http://azeroth.mmo-champion.com/download/WoW-0.4.0.7994-to-0.4.0.8016-enUS-patch.exe)]
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Warlocks and mages changes in the expansion
Warlocks will get a few new abilities in the expansion, Kalgan posted about one of them on the forums. Keep in mind that it's just an idea and it could perfectly not be included in the final version of the expansion.

Source (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103813577&postId=51032471426&sid=1#22) We definitely feel the need for warlocks to gain some sort of active defense so we don't have to try to balance them around the assumption that they're "tanking" melee classes. For example, an idea we're running with internally is the concept of a warlock being able to cast a spell that places a circle of demonic power on the ground. The warlock would be able to teleport to this location from within a relatively short range (ie: 40 yards), and would also be able to summon demons more quickly if they're standing within the circle.

Note: this idea is intended as a sneak peek, it's not something that we're planning for 2.4, it would be more likely as an expansion ability, and may change entirely before said time.

Mages will also get a few nice things, especially when it comes to warlocks/mages balancing in PvP.

Source (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103794948&postId=51031978732&sid=1#6) Mages will get new abilities in the expansion too, believe it or not. In fact, we intend to tone down how strong of a counter warlocks are to mages through the wotlk spells/talents.

WotLK - Lake Wintergrasp popularity
If you've been asking yourself if Lake Wintergrasp (the expansion outdoor PvP zone) will be popular or not, it seems that Blizzard is fairly confident about its future success.

Source (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103944672&postId=51032074991&sid=1#20) Based on the information we already know, I think it will be more active than Halaa because one of the things that hurt Halaa was the Diminishing Returns on honor points. With this removed in patch 2.4 people will be able to continue piling up honor points until they've had enough. I know rewards play a huge factor, so with the knowledge that people have now of items we've made available through honor points, I think it will continue to be a busy place for a long time.

US Realms - Central US Internet issues
If you've been high latency and unusual things on US realms, you might want to watch updates on this thread.

Source (http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=5103824862&postId=51032473021&sid=1#0) A network degradation outside of the Blizzard network is currently impacting several World of Warcraft realms. Players attempting to access the impacted realms may be experiencing high network latency, packet loss, disconnections or inability to connect. We are actively receiving updates from the parties involved and have been assured that the issue is actively being worked on; however, we have not yet received any estimates for when a resolution may occur. We will continue to provide updates as we receive further information.

Poag

03-07-2008, 09:29 AM

Broke due to MMO Champion being tards and filling a RSS feed with html, which exceeds the RSS feeds length cap.

Crapola

Diate

03-07-2008, 10:29 AM

Thanks for posting this Poag.

Votan

03-07-2008, 10:35 AM

Interesting items though I have to shake my head in disbelief about what they said about Halaa. They sure missed the point there :)

Varelse

03-07-2008, 10:37 AM

Turbo Blink for warlocks?

Thanks for the heads up. Gives our mages time enough to re-roll.

Interesting items though I have to shake my head in disbelief about what they said about Halaa. They sure missed the point there :)

QFT. It's not about fucking diminishing returns, it's about faction imbalances.

Poag

03-07-2008, 10:58 AM

I attacked Halaa on my own last ngiht after the horde took it.

For no particular reason, sadly I only got through 5 guards before raids started :(

TBH the Halaa daily fills me with as much dread as the PvP towers in Hellfire. For alliance to do the quest it really does require them to follow one hordie around, and yell at other alliance who try and attack them not to do so.

Can only dread Halaa daily :(

Jinna

03-13-2008, 08:57 AM

I'd love to see a PVP outdoor instance with resources in it (herbs, ore, etc) that has a 1 hour duration in it (you enter it and gain a debuff that ports you to your HS location, or where you signed up).

You sign up, and when your time comes, you enter the 'Battle Ground' where you can go farm resources for your hour, but you have to contend with the other faction being there to gank you.

would be good if it was server only, 25-30 person cap, can't join as group.

kleo

03-13-2008, 10:16 AM

outdoo pvp instance? 25-30 ppl? only would it not be just better to turn the server to pvp or you would hear the rants about ppl forgetting to turn pvp off and getting ganked. you can do the outdoor pvp and farm herbs, mine already in EP. we just need a simliar in a lvl70 area. halaa rewards need a re-think to get ppl there, espec now you can make the 10 res gem in the next patch.

Jinna

03-13-2008, 10:34 AM

outdoo pvp instance? 25-30 ppl? only would it not be just better to turn the server to pvp or you would hear the rants about ppl forgetting to turn pvp off and getting ganked. you can do the outdoor pvp and farm herbs, mine already in EP. we just need a simliar in a lvl70 area. halaa rewards need a re-think to get ppl there, espec now you can make the 10 res gem in the next patch.

The point is to make an area similar to 0.0 space in EVE. An area abundant in resources, but requiring you to take a big risk to get them. Halaa, was bad because the rewards were not worth it, and there was nothing in place to keep some sort of balance when a server favored one faction.

An instance with a player cap, and rich in some commodity (fel lotus nodes, eternium nodes, mobs with high chance of primal drops, rare leather type drops, items that have no use other than being disenchanted... Basically a land of cream and honey.

Going there would be great, but not without risk of being killed by other players.

Votan

03-13-2008, 10:48 AM

Aka go play on a pvp server :) Only difference being the player cap.

I think that a more interactive pvp environment is what would really help. I'm quite sceptical about the new proposed Winterspring lake pvp zone; to me it reeks of a non-instanced AV. They should take things a step further, let the players exert more influence on the environment and make it noticeable. Things like the Zangamarsh buff & HF peninsula buff are but half-arsed concoctions, the potential was there but it wasn't grasped or utilised. I guess its quite useless to ponder about such things since it would require a too big of a shift in the games focus and mechanics.

Jinna

03-13-2008, 11:02 AM

Aka go play on a pvp server :) Only difference being the player cap.

The idea is that it would contain things attractive to a pvp server too. Why do people on pvp servers do Battlegrounds? why not just go out into the world and find people to fight?

People can run away, hide, get their friends to protect them. A BG like this pushed people together who want to get a specific resource, conflict between players is not for some token item like a flag, or to beat the enemies boss. There can be many fluid stratagies to how people chose to play inside the area, as the goal is to collect as many resources for yourself while not getting killed, or trying to control a 'sweet spot' for as long as possible until it becomes to time consuming to defend.

This will be fun for people who want to engage in FFA pvp, w/o any specific goal in mind, they can go around hunting people for sport and honour, getting badges like in Halaa, thus ending up with 2 destinct types of people in the BG, those looking to grind commodities (herbivores) and those looking to grind the people looking for commodities (carnivores)

Will people band up and try to defend their farmers? Or will people sneak off to be alone in the hope not to draw attention and quietly farm.

There's so many more options for a fluid and dynamic battle.

Votan

03-13-2008, 11:12 AM

It would be a way to rehash some of the old Azeroth that's practically devoid of players. I doubt anyone would really give a toss if they redid Desolace and turned it into a real warzone. Toss in some nice gatherable goodies. Don't make it like the spicelol mishap in Silithus, make it more dynamic and fluid.